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		<title>How much does a .COM name really cost?</title>
		<link>http://www.mindsandmachines.com/2009/08/how-much-does-a-com-name-really-cost/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Antony Van Couvering</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Domain Sales]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Decent .com names are so hard to find, and so expensive, that businesses are making money selling names that will doom your new business even before it gets started.  New TLDs will help solve this very difficult that confronts every new business today. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s getting so hard to find a decent .COM domain name that a big weed patch of businesses has grown up hawking really terrible names for enormous prices &#8212; and they&#8217;re finding buyers.   They&#8217;re catering to people who are just trying to find something &#8212; anything! &#8212; that will work for their new web site.  The problem is especially acute for those who are trying to start a business. </p>
<p>For instance, have a look at <a href="http://www.brandbucket.com" class="liexternal">Brand Bucket</a>, a shop that specializes in &#8220;unique brand-rich domain names for your business.&#8221; </p>
<p><img src="http://www.mindsandmachines.com/wp-content/uploads/brandbucket.png" alt="brandbucket" title="brandbucket" width="477" height="320" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-446" /></p>
<p>Despite this fine write-up, their names will kill a business before it even gets started &#8212; assuming the prices they charge don&#8217;t kill it first.  These are from the &#8220;Internet&#8221; and &#8220;consulting&#8221; areas of their site:</p>
<ul>
<li>seodaddy.com &#8211; $4895 (Get sued by GoDaddy!)</li>
<li>mockit.com &#8211; $4895 (OK &#8211; neener neener neener)</li>
<li>credulo.com &#8211; $1495 (If you&#8217;re credulous, buy credulo.com!)</li>
<li>cacheup.com &#8211; $1295 (Would you like some mustard too?)</li>
</ul>
<p>But maybe (you&#8217;re thinking), this BrandBucket business is just for the unwary, just as you can pay $25 for a bad cup of coffee at certain New York hotels.  It must be better on the open market, right?  </p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not any better anywhere.  Check out <a href="http://www.afternic.com" class="liexternal">AfterNIC</a>, one of the larger domain name auction platforms.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.mindsandmachines.com/wp-content/uploads/afternic1.png" alt="afternic" title="afternic" width="460" height="179" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-448" /></p>
<p>AfterNIC has a different style of terrible name.  They don&#8217;t choose the names, like BrandBucket &#8212; these are names being offered for sale by their sellers, à la eBay.   At AfterNIC, there&#8217;s a different &#8212; but consistent &#8212; style of awfulness.   If instead of a doomed-from-the-start Web 2.0-type name from BrandBucket, you prefer a second-class affiliate marketing name, this is the place.  I searched AfterNIC for .COM names in the categories &#8220;internet&#8221; and &#8220;consulting&#8221; to try to get a good comparison with BrandBucket.  I also started at $5000 or less, skipping such must-haves as ontheinternetmortgage.com at $125,000:</p>
<ul>
<li>einternetconsulting.com &#8211; $5000 (The extra &#8220;e&#8221; is for effort)</li>
<li>internettwopointoh.com &#8211; $5000 (Oh! Oh!)</li>
<li>internetdisabilityinsurance.com &#8211; $3900 (Huge market there)</li>
<li>64kinternetmarketing.com &#8211; $2000 (Even Bill Gates learned you need more than 64K)</li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;m not just cherry-picking  &#8212; try it yourself.  And although BrandBucket and AfterNIC are my examples, the names they offer are no worse than you&#8217;ll find at other sites.  Like any business they&#8217;re just responding to a need &#8212; in this case, the need for decent, brandable names for web businesses.  Domain names under .COM, at any venue, are without exception jaw-droppingly bad below about $50,000, and often above that price as well.</p>
<p>When people are paying thousands of dollars for horrible names, it&#8217;s hard to credit the argument that we don&#8217;t need new generic top-level domain names.  </p>
<p>New top-level domains will not only make it easier to find a decent domain at a decent price, they will, just by the fact of being introduced in large numbers, make people realize that there&#8217;s more to life than .COM.   In Europe, in Asia, they already do: many business use, as well as .COM, the top-level domain for their country as well as for neighboring countries, as well as .EU and .ASIA.   With the introduction of a spate of new top-level domains, we will see some sanity returning to pricing here in the U.S. as well. </p>
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		<title>The 7 Top Things to Consider When Starting a new gTLD Registry &#8211; 2 of 7 : Is my TLD &#8216;Open&#8217; or &#8216;Community&#8217;?</title>
		<link>http://www.mindsandmachines.com/2009/04/the-7-top-things-to-consider-when-starting-a-new-gtld-registry-2-of-7-is-my-tld-open-or-community/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jothan Frakes</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Alliance for Climate Protection]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this ongoing series of articles, Minds + Machines discusses the things to consider in the process of starting a new TLD.  This post is about declaring your TLD as 'Community' or 'Open'.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current version of ICANN&#8217;s draft Application Guidebook (currently in Draft 2, awaiting Draft 3) allows an  applicant for a new gTLD to choose whether they want to be considered as a Community or an Open TLD.  An Open TLD is completely open to anyone, without any restrictions.  .COM is an example of an open TLD.  </p>
<p>To qualify as a Community TLD, you must pass some tests.  Most qualifications concern the TLD sponsoring organization(s) and or the requirements placed upon potential registrants.  A perfect example of a Community TLD is the <a href="http://supportdoteco.com" class="liexternal">.ECO</a> TLD.   They have obtained a flood of strong community support from a number of environmental organizations, individuals and supporting organizations such as the <a href="http://www.surfrider.org/" class="liexternal">Surfrider Foundation</a>, the <a href="http://www.sierraclub.org/" class="liexternal">Sierra Club</a>, and most notably Al Gore and the <a href="http://www.climateprotect.org/" class="liexternal">Alliance for Climate Protection</a>.  (Disclaimer: .ECO is a Minds + Machines customer.)  .ECO will be somewhat restrictive in its allocations and qualifications to register.  For example, corporations with horrific track records on pollution and environmental destruction will not be able to register.  </p>
<p>ICANN’s current draft of the Applicant Guidebook indicates that a Community TLD will trump an Open TLD applicant trying for the same name.  Does that mean you should always file as a community?  Not necessarily.</p>
<p>ICANN has set up a point system for deciding whether an application qualifies as a Community TLD.  One must score very high to be considered as a community TLD, and part of that qualification means creating a restrictive process for registrations or qualifications.  These barriers to entry may mean lower registration numbers, and there may be additional fields that a registrar needs to capture in their registration process &#8212; which makes them less likely to want to offer the TLD. </p>
<p>There are three really good reasons to file as an Open TLD instead of as a community.  First and foremost, you might not actually be a community &#8212; .ADULT, for instance, really can&#8217;t be considered a community.  The other reason is that once you set the restrictions on applications that help you qualify as a community, you have to stick with them.  You can&#8217;t file as a community, limit registrations to a particular community, then change the rules to let everyone register.   Finally, an Open TLD might attract more registrations because there are no restrictions.   There are many who view Open TLDs as more attractive commercially. </p>
<p>In deciding whether to file as a Community TLD or an Open TLD, you need to balance commercial viability against your application&#8217;s chances for success. </p>
<p>In a marketplace where registrars are going to have to make choices as to which of the TLDs they offer, those that are simplest are more likely to appeal to them.   They will make exceptions for popular domains, such as .ECO.  That said, if a registrar can easily implement a TLD that (from an implementation perspective) is a clone of .COM, they are more likely to do so.   Therefore, Open TLDs may be more widely adopted by registrars. </p>
<p>Most of the potential applicants that I’ve seen describe their key metric of success as  wide adoption and use of their TLD.  Picking the right focus, Open or Community, will be an important decision.</p>
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		<title>Interviewed by Elliot Silver</title>
		<link>http://www.mindsandmachines.com/2009/04/interview-with-elliot-silver/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Antony Van Couvering</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elliot Silver interviews me at length about new top-level domains. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did a long <a href="http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php/5-with-antony-van-couvering-gtld-expert/" class="liexternal">interview</a> with Elliot Silver of <a href="http://www.elliotsblog.com/" class="liexternal">Elliot&#8217;s Blog</a>, where he asked (and I answered) a number of questions about <a href="http://dotnyc.net" class="liexternal">.NYC</a> and new top-level domains in general.   With lots of <a href="http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php/5-with-antony-van-couvering-gtld-expert/#comments" class="liexternal">comments</a> by new TLD haters&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Toys.com Sells for $5.1 Million; Can&#8217;t wait to see who gets .toy</title>
		<link>http://www.mindsandmachines.com/2009/03/toycom-sells-for-51-million-cant-wait-to-see-who-gets-toy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Hardy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The very public battle for Toys.com is finally over…sort of. Pending court approval Toys R Us are soon to be the new owner of Toys.com bidding $5.1M for the privilege. The toy conglomerate outbid National A-1 Advertising at auction in which it had originally sold for $1.25M. One can only wonder who will win the [...]]]></description>
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<p>The very public battle for Toys.com is finally over…sort of.</p>
<p>Pending court approval Toys R Us are soon to be the new owner of Toys.com bidding $5.1M for the privilege. The toy conglomerate outbid National A-1 Advertising at auction in which it had originally sold for $1.25M. </p>
<p>One can only wonder who will win the inevitable auction for .toy</p>
<p><a href="http://" class="liexternal">Domainnamewire.com</a>  has a full archive of the bidding process.</p>
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